fine over ten years, we have about 225 billion dollars of cuts spread across government and secretary panetta says we can find savings. just don't give us a number that's too ugly or too big. now, there's some specifics and there are things we can do this year to avoid the sequestration effect. >> mr. kaine, this week, the u.s. supreme course is going to tackle the issue of of a firn missive action. do you think a college applicants race should be a factor in whether or not they're admitted to a virginia college? >> bob, the supreme court is going to tackle this case, which i think they last sort of dealt with in two cases from the university of michigan in the early part of the 2000s. and the issue there and the issue pending today is, do our public colleges accept students in a student body that sort of looks like the state or looks like the population they serve. my kids have gone to the public schools in richmond and they have come up in classrooms that are extremely diverse. they have gotten really good academic education, bought they have also really gotten spectacular education in livi